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18th-Jul-2005 10:13 pm
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Those of you who don't have any emotional investment in the Harry Potter books, feel free to move along. Nothing to see here.

For the rest of you, I'm going to alternately rant, give praise and wax philosophical about the sixth book. And yes, there will be spoilers. Huge ones. And lots of them. And I will ramble.

Oh, and I should warn you that it's very, very long. Click at your own risk.

First of all, I liked the beginning and the ending a lot. Very little interactions with the Stepfamily From Hell, which was welcome, and a nice reunion between Harry and his friends. The final five chapters or so were absolutely riveting - definite "cannot put this down" material. At these extremes of the book, it really felt like I was reading a Harry Potter story.

However, the middle was often very painful to read. Somewhere along the line, these extremely well developed characters we've come to know and love turned into caricatures in the name of tackling the issue of Teenage Hormones. Harry himself escaped most of the damage, having gone from the Angry Young Man of the last book to a more mature and settled individual -- albeit one with a monster living in his chest. Ron, however, seemed to regress in maturity rather than grow up. Apart from slight flashes of sensitivity, such as admitting that Luna has grown on him, and not allowing Harry to be the Tragic Loner Hero at the end, he's very much a man-boy, reacting to the world around him like the 11-year-old from the first book.

His small step backward was nothing, though, compared to poor Hermione. Dear God, what happened to Hermione? What happened to the oldest, most mature, most emotionally stable (though that's not saying much) of the three? Suddenly she's a creature of jealousy of spite whose entire self-image depends on what Ron thinks of her. This was one of the best heroines of modern literature, and this book absolutely ruined her, all in the name of Teenage Hormones. Sure, I knew girls like this when I was seventeen, but I sure as hell didn't seek out their company. Yes, I get that there are real people who act like that, but it was completely inconsistent with the Story So Far, and frankly, I expect better of the heroes of the story. Sure, I like my heroes flawed, but I do NOT like my heroes to be assholes.

And then dear little Ginny Weasley. Ye gods, where do I start? Practically perfect in every way. She's hot! She's sought after! She likes sports! She's sarcastic! She makes the monster in Harry's chest rear back and say "Oh, baby!" And she has this flowery scent that Harry once smelled in a love potion, so obviously she's destined to be his One And Only as long as she doesn't ever change her brand of shampoo. Ah, young love. But seriously, apart from the fact that this little romance came after five years of Harry barely noticing the girl existed, apart from the fact that her character seemed to be pumped up at the expense of others, apart from the fact that it demonstrates that all you have to do is obsessively hold onto your preteen crush long enough and you will eventually get your way... apart from all that, the actual romance was not terribly offensive, mostly because it took place almost entirely off-camera. And they seemed to be genuinely happy, which is a nice change from the gloom and doom of recent years at Hogwarts. At the same time, I hope their break-up at the end of the book was a real break-up, because I will hack up my entire lower tract if Harry spends the entire seventh book finding inspiration to overcome his trials by thinking back on the fire-haired beauty waiting in the tower for her shining knight to come back after vanquishing the Dark Lord. (/horf)

Speaking of romance, I have never, ever liked Ron and Hermione as a couple, but I didn't start actively disliking it until I started paying attention to fandom. Basically, I'm not really thrilled about the cliche of squabbling being a mask for true affection. Many fans of the coupling follow the very simple argument that People Who Are In Love Fight All The Time, therefore People Who Fight All The Time Are In Love, therefore Ron And Hermione Are In Love. I find the entire cliche insulting. I get the whole Sparks thing, the whole Chemistry thing, and the whole Unresolved Sexual Tension theory, but all of those boil down to this misconseption that Conflict=Love. If I may go all Freudian on you, I imagine this dislike has to do with the extremely conflictual relationship my parents had before they split up. Honestly, Ron and Hermione are reminding me more and more of my parents, and of some of the more miserable stretches of my childhood, so naturally I'm biased. (I, myself, had the good fortune to marry a brilliant, bookish girl, so you can probably guess who I've been rooting for Harry to fall for.)

After this book, I absolutely loathe the pairing, and I find it highly offensive that we're having it shoved down our throats as a "typical" romance. Their "relationship" has taken a considerable turn for the worse now that Ron is doing all his thinking with his Other Wand and Hermione has fallen out of the Bitchy Tree and hit every branch on the way down. It's all fights, verbal abuse, a sprinkling of physical violence, stormy silences and abrupt make-ups coming only after tragic events bring them back together. They bring out the absolute worst in one another, and their "banter," far from being amusing, is disturbing and offensive. Please, JKR, if the seventh book is going to be all about the trio, don't have Harry forced to constantly mediate between his friends. He's got enough on his mind as it is.

Come to think on it, there isn't a really good track record for the female characters 'round here. Cho Chang was a basket case, at least some of which could be attributed to the dead boyfriend, but also showed a real mean streak of jealousy and manipulativeness in her brief relationship with Harry last book. Once she wasn't getting her way, it was all about the mind games and spite. Hermione has become all that and more, between dating another boy just to maximize her potential to irritate Ron, attacking him with a cloud of birds, and back-handedly insulting his Quidditch abilities while he's busily kissing Lavender nearby. Lavender herself is a paper-thin caricature of the clingy girlfriend-cum-stalker. And Ginny, after Harry breaks up with her, tells him that she never got over him, and dating other boys and coming out of her shell was not a symptom of her maturity, but a further attempt to get his attention. So apparently we're left to believe that teenage girls are one and all master manipulators in the field of emotions. The only one who really dodges this is Luna, who thus far has been more or less asexual anyway.

Luna. Sigh. I had such high hopes for this character after her introduction in the last book. I had similar hopes for Neville Longbottom, who proved his Gryffindor bravery yet again in the Department of Mysteries. I really thought that the sixth book would have six principal characters, elevating Neville, Luna and Ginny to at least a "major supporting characters" role. Alas, only Ginny got that treatment. Neville was criminally absent -- not a word about how much better he may or may not have become now that he has more confidence and a wand of his own. Luna's appearances were wonderful, if entirely too brief, but mostly seemed to use her only for comic relief purposes, with none of the unconventional wisdom she showed in the last book.

Hmm, I am indeed rambling, so perhaps I should just start from the beginning and list of likes and dislikes.

Nice observation by Dumbledore that at least Harry isn't as damaged as Dudley.

Okay, so they sent Kreacher to work in the kitchens. Kreacher, who thoroughly hates anyone but purebloods, who loathes his new master, and who has shown in the past that he will twist his orders as it suits him in order to hurt those he dislikes, is working in the freaking kitchens. With access to the entire student body's food and drink. Anyone else get red flags at this?

Phlegm? Sigh.

Am I the only one who was bothered by the fact that nobody ever seemed to take Harry's suspicions of Draco seriously? It seemed like they were trying way too hard to play devil's advocate all the time. Never mind that he turned out to be right - haven't his friends always been willing to at least follow up on his hunches, even with caution?

Thank heavens for the Weasley twins. U-No-Poo? Classic. And very nice that they're branching out of the joke business and working on genuine anti-Dark-Arts items.

Nice scene on the train with Harry, Neville and Luna, though their reactions to learning that the D.A. wasn't coming back were painful. (I'm kind of surprised the D.A. didn't continue, though I imagine Snape might not have allowed it.) I loved Harry brushing off the Beautiful People to stay with his friends, considering that a year ago he was hoping for "cooler" people than Neville and Luna to be found with.

In chapter eight, Snape is on camera for about five seconds and I'm grinding my teeth. I'm so freaking sick of him AND his classes. "Okay, JKR, we get it! Snape hates Harry! He's going to unfairly dock points from Gryffindor and taunt him about his dead parents! Harry's going to scowl and say mean things in italicised text! WE GET IT!" (Though admittedly, in the next chapter, Harry gets off one the most classic lines of all time at Snape's expense. "There's no need to call me 'sir,' Professor." Lovely.)

Did anyone else hear "Dueling Banjos" when we saw the flashback to the Gaunt house? (Yes, I know it was England, but I couldn't help but think of that movie...)

Lots of talk about love potions and obsessive love throughout the book, which is interesting considering that the middle third is like an episode of Hogwarts Creek. Red herring? Probably. We couldn't be so lucky as to think there would be a "rational" explanation for all that...

And from our stock of Characters Who Appear From Nowhere, we give you McLaggen. A character who apparently exists mostly to make Hermione look bad, first here where she hexes him so Ron will make the team, and later when she asks him out to make Ron jealous. Sigh. I did love it, however, when a squadron of Hufflepuffs tried out for the Gryffindor Quidditch team. As an unabashed Hufflepuff supporter, that made me laugh.

Poor Hagrid. Hated the whole scene where they try to apologize to him. Must they always lie to him to maintain their friendship? I suppose it's an ass-backwards way of showing that they care, but it's still unfortunate.

I noticed a few more references to God in this one, such as Ron saying "Thank God" when they arrive at Honeydukes. Intentional, or bad editing?

In Herbology, when it begins to occur to Harry that Something is going on between Ron and Hermione, he seems kind of resigned to it (much the way I feel, frankly). What I found interesting is that he didn't see this as being good for their friendship, whether the two of them break up and become impossible to deal with, or stay together and shut him out. So much for the widely-held belief in fandom that Harry would be thrilled for them.

Another sighting of Harry's monster as Dean kisses Ginny. Ginny's attack on her brother was almost as inexcusable as Ron's reaction to it. By this time I was already sick of the hormones, but there was much, much more to come...

Harry heartily dislikes Zacharias Smith? Really? Just because he was skeptical about the way his housemate died, and took a Show Don't Tell attitude into the D.A. with him? Pity. I thought there was more to Z than being a one-dimensional ass, though I guess that was all we had time for in this book.

The canary attack. There are no words.

Loved it that Luna was the one comforting Hermione after Ron made her cry again. (Can you tell I adore Luna?) The entire scene where Harry asks her to the party is priceless. I smiled a lot during this chapter, including at the point where Harry snarfs his drink after Luna says something particularly Lunish. I preferred to think that the line "Really, it had been worth bringing Luna just for this" was a laughing-with-you rather than a laughing-at-you moment, but then, I'm biased.

Okay, Ron threw a kitchen knife at his brothers when they gave him grief over Lavender. Threw. A. Kitchen. Knife. And got a mild scolding. Sometimes I get the idea that the wizarding world is a very abusive and violent place overall, and that I'm supposed to think of things like this, and the canaries, and people getting stuffed into vanishing cabinets, as somehow funny. Hasn't worked yet.

Well done on Harry showing his scarred hand to the new Minister of Magic and essentially telling him to piss off. Applause-worthy moment.

And in our revolving cameos, a big hello to Ernie Macmillan and Susan Bones in the apparation lessons. Still waiting for a Hufflepuff with a significant role (who doesn't die).

Can we have more Luna Quidditch commentary? Please? Oh, and as a shout-out to all those downtrodden 'Puffers out there, I just want to point out that Hufflepuff is now three and one versus Gryffindor since Harry's arrival. In your face! (Okay, so it took a cancelled match, a dementor attack, a Tri-Wizard Tournament, a triple banning and an idiot keeper knocking out his own seeker for this to happen, but still! Scoreboard, baby!)

Lavender: "I won't be ignored, Ron!"

So Hepzibah Smith was an heir of Hufflepuff, eh? I can hear the theories about Zacharias already. After all, considering how many utterly bizarre wizard names there are, "Smith" is probably pretty rare...

And the Number One line from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince that sounds dirty but isn't: "I need to see what Draco Malfoy is doing inside you." (/Letterman)

A drunken Slughorn referring to Harry as "Parry Otter" is going to spawn a few theories, I imagine.

The horcruxes are interesting, and at least it gives us a focus for what the next book is going to be about. Though the concept of your soul being shredded by committing murder - what does that mean for the one(s) that must take on Lord Thingie and his minions? Do you get a freebie for taking out Really Mean People?

"Sectumsempra! Er... oops!" Like many others, I was very disappointed in the way Hermione skewered a shell-shocked Harry afterward with a petty remark about his performance in Potions. And then Ginny comes to his rescue. Sigh. It's sad when the formerly strong heroine of the story is reduced to such things in order to push the love interests together.

I wondered if Harry kissing Ginny so soon after her breakup with Dean would make the Gryffindor 6th-year dorm a rather uncomfortable place Funnily enough, though, Dean all but disappeared after this. Maybe JKR was tired of the angst as well.

If it's all the same, I think that on any subsequent re-readings I'll skip right past the pages where Harry's feeding that potion to Dumbledore. Ye gods.

And then, the Big Final Battle, and we come upon an unfortunate side-effect of the Harry-centric POV. Apparently there was a pretty spectacular fight going on below them (including the sorely underused Neville), and we saw squat. I wonder how they'll handle this in the movie, should there be one? I mean sure, the confrontation between Dumbledore and Malfoy was interesting and all, but I feel like we missed out. Nonetheless, huge love to Neville for chasing headlong after the Death Eaters, even though it got him injured. That's mah boy!

Hmm, why do I get the feeling that the Astronomy Tower will not be such a popular snogging spot in seventh-year fanfics?

And hell yeah for that duel with Snape! Even in a fight, he's still being the disapproving teacher who taunts Harry for not working hard enough. But I was never a bigger fan of Harry's than during this fight. "Kill me then -- kill me like you killed him, you coward --" Kick ass, boy wizard.

Speaking of Snape, I'm ninety percent sure this is all still part of the Plan, that Snape is still working for the side of good, and that Dumbledore was pleading with him to not blow his cover, even if it meant sacrificing D's own life. However, screw that. I want Snape to be evil. I want him to finally get what's coming to him after six years of misery. I'm just so damned sick of him.

Go Fleur. In yer face, Molly.

I have no problem at all with Tonks and Lupin as a couple, even though I think Lupin's chances of surviving the next book are between zero and nothing. But what a klutzy scene that was, when she professes her devotion during the post-mortem. Eesh.

So, Dumbledore already has a painting up in the Headmaster's Office. Which makes me wonder -- how much do these paintings retain of their subjects, anyway? Will Our Heroes be able to go into the office and solicit advice from him? Will he have memories of his tenure? Will he recognize his former students? It does make the death seem a little less "final," if that makes any sense.

And in our final Neville and Luna moment, we have a rush of affection from Harry as he sees Luna helping Neville to his seat at the funeral. I would have hoped they would have been with Harry's group, but so it goes. At any rate, I will cling to my hope that the two of them still have a significant part to play in the finale. I'd hate to think they got all that build-up in book five just to become bit-parts later.

However, based on the last page, I sense a Trio-centric final installment, which could be good and bad. I'll continue to hold out hope for a larger cast of truly significant players, for either an end to the Ron/Hermione "romance" or some serious attitude adjustment for both of them, for Hermione to start acting like Harry's friend again at the very least, and... I dunno. Just more of the sort of writing we got toward the end of the book rather than the stuff in the middle. JKR certainly has a satirical streak, but this whole Teenage Hormones thing felt like a parody of her own writing, and I'd just as soon not have to sit through more of that.

Cripes, this was long. Signing off.
Comments 
19th-Jul-2005 01:49 pm (UTC)
I haven't read what you've written as I read the HP books far more slowly (one chapter a night, or so)...but, you may get a response to this then-old post when I'm finished and I actually look behind the cut rather than simply skirt it quickly with covered eyes in an effort to reply.
20th-Jul-2005 06:40 am (UTC)
Heh, right on. I'll see you in a few weeks. I feel bad for you, having to spend two weeks in Sweet Valley Hogwarts. But then, since you teach high school, perhaps it will seem less far-fetched to you?
9th-Aug-2005 04:19 pm (UTC)
Well, I certainly didn't put as much thought into my mental review as you did...then again, I'm not a writer like you (and don't go getting all humble about that one, either).

In truth, while I found both this book and the previous one to be filled with teen-aged angst and exploding hormones I

  • thought that this book was far less annoying in that regard than the last; and

  • see both instances of rampaging hormones every day I go to work.


As a for instance, there is a very bright capable young lady in one of my classes. She will be a Senior next year...she cries at least once a week coming into my class because of her boyfriend. No, you're mistaken, he hasn't done anything bad to her (I have him in another class)...it's only that the passing period is over and they can't be together until after class.

No.

I'm not kidding.

Granted, in the case of Book 5, that made it that much more annoying: I read it during school and didn't really feel like dealing with the teenage drama in my imagination, too (why any adult would ever imagine being romantically linked with a teenager boggles the mind, but that's a topic for another discussion). But, perhaps because I was reading it while I was mostly on Summer Break, this one seemed less annoying.

As for Snape...I'm suspicious, too, that he is still on the good guy's side. The begging of Dumbledore, as mentioned in another reply to this post, could have easily been Dumbledore begging for Snape to kill him so as to not blow his cover. And all the talk later of him being a master of hiding his thoughts, while it serves well to describe why Dumbledore never figured it out, would just as easily prove why Voldemort never figured it out, instead. Still, he's annoying as all Hell. Although, despite all of that, I truly hope he survives the last book: the world is like that...the most annoying people in your life tend to stay.
19th-Jul-2005 02:02 pm (UTC)
I think I feel away from HP in the third or fourth book...people seem to be raving about them so much, though, that I am tempted to pick them back up.
20th-Jul-2005 06:41 am (UTC)
Well, make sure you have a lot of time. Starting with book four they go from novel-length to friggin' hyooge.
19th-Jul-2005 02:56 pm (UTC)
You make me feel so much better -- at least I know I'm not imagining things (which doesn't make the idea of the secondary storylines becoming canon better, but easier to handle, I suppose).

Hmm, why do I get the feeling that the Astronomy Tower will not be such a popular snogging spot in seventh-year fanfics?
::SNORT!::

I'm just so exhausted from all of this...trust that I was vehemently pointing at the screen and giving hearty, mental "YOU GO BOY!"s the whole time. Does it not feel like this is some kind of joke? That the real book is sitting on JKR's desk and she's waiting to wave it in front of us like "Oops! Muhbad!" I'm really clinging to the love potions because they were really mentioned about fifteen times (and even demonstrated with Ron's accidental eating of Harry's chocolate [even thought that was a plot point to get Ron poisoned) with NO FRUITION TO THE WHOLE THING. Here's hoping that the quote about this being Part 1 of 2 is really true, because I can't see how Jo was so...unskilled in handling characters (even in the face of romance considering that Harry's building crush with Cho was quite believably portrayed IMO) when she has previously created characters just gorgeously. I want to have faith that she's really as skilled as she has seemed for five books and JUST PLAIN EVIL. (And that I haven't imagined 1-5. Please, please, please, no!!)

And I hope Snape is evil, too...but you know my large and overwrought thoughts on that. I appreciate his being close to the only IC character in this book, and therefore 3D and fascinating, but Damn. He totally sicced LV on James 'n' Lily (BTW...err...Hogwarts Snape/Lily anyone?) and that is NOT ON.

Does it not seems like this book makes OotP seem like it never happened? I mean...it's like the Department of Mysteries scene...never happened. All the loose ends from that: the veil, Pomfrey's ominous remark about Ron's injuries, Hermione's injuries, all of the WACKED OUT EXPERIMENTS going on, that locked door...gone. Totally glossed over like WHOA.

The Leaky Cauldron just posted the first bit of the JKR interview, and I leave you with this:
"I would say that I think it has been demonstrated, particularly in books five and six that immense brainpower does not protect you from emotional mistakes and I think Dumbledore really exemplifies that."

Dumbledore exemplifies it, but I would hope that this also refers to another brilliant person not being protected from emotional MISTAKES.
20th-Jul-2005 06:52 am (UTC)
The longer we went with no Marauder Love whatsoever in this volume, the more I was thinking "Damn, Prongsphile and Carrie are out there twitching..."

Yeah, it did feel like the end of the fifth book never happened. One passing reference to the scars on Ron's arms, a nod to Neville and Luna having been there while on the train, and then... erm... is this something else that's going to be put off until book seven? Have you been reading her interviews? It's all about "I can't tell you that - it's in book seven." How long is this thing gonna be?

I will hope that a certain brilliant bookworm is also making emotional mistakes. I can't take another bookful of what we just had. I'm relieved that Harry will never again have to sit through a Snape class (and that we will not, in turn, have to sit through one), but that will be cold comfort if the last book is all about Harry and his Amazing Bickering Sidekicks. I can't afford to break any more of my molars.

(wibble) I want more Luna and Neville.
19th-Jul-2005 03:25 pm (UTC)
Much to think about, yes, yes indeed. Very good book, but you have good points.

I love Luna.

I REALLY want to know what the Truth About Snape is. Grrrrr. Gonna drive me nuts for years. :>

One disturbing thought as I went to sleep last night: what if Dumbledore was mistaken, and HARRY was somehow a Horcrux? I can see Rowling pulling that. :>
20th-Jul-2005 06:57 am (UTC)
Oh, I can totally believe the idea that Harry is a horcrux, or at least, the scar on his forehead is one. It seems pretty apparent that Lord Thingie put something of himself in Harry. I've also heard it suggested that Ginny is one after CoS, but I think that's just because there are people out there who want her dead. =)

What's not to love about Luna, I ask you? She rocks. I can't tell you how hard it was, while writing FTM, to not channel Catseye into Luna... "Oo, wizardboy zap nasty greasehead good, yes?"
19th-Jul-2005 06:08 pm (UTC)
Word. To all of it.
Absolutely true, every word of it. Kreacher in the kitchens!!! Yes, exactly!!!! That's it! He's been contaminating the food and drink of Hogwarts and that's why it's suddenly turned into Hogwarts Valley High!!!

(and yay for another person who hates Snape and is as sick of him as I am. I might not think he's completely working for 'evil' but I want him to die because I've just had enough of his slimy character.)

*friends*
20th-Jul-2005 07:00 am (UTC)
(friends you back)

Whether or not Kreacher is doing anything to the food, the fact remains that he is in the position to do so, and Dobby can't possibly keep an eye on him all the time.

I just hope Snape doesn't do a big reveal at the end of book seven in which he does something noble and dies to save Harry. Kill the slimeball.
15th-Aug-2005 12:24 pm (UTC)
You wrote this back on the 18th July, which means there's a fair chance you were, like the rest of us, desperately seeking a grand 'love potion' theory which would explain the complete destruction of the Hermione we came to know and love from the previous five books. Back then we were all like you, hoping that the true Hermione would return in book #7, and even that there was a chance that she and Harry would get together.

But then along came The Interview (part 2) which told us all that JKR meant it to be this way, H/G and R/Hr. And so we all worked out that JKR isn't the great writer we thought she was, and is 'plot driven' rather than 'character driven'. As you say, the characterisation was horrible and many of the characters were sad one dimensional skeletons of what they were or could have been. JKR had let Hermione and others 'wander away' out of her control during the previous books ... but when it came time to write HBP she dusted off the Grand Plan she'd written 15 years ago, reminded herself that book #6 was the one where Harry and the Cheerleader get together, and the two sidekicks, in a nice OBHWF group, and wrote it thus ... as maddening and inconsistent as it was.

Sigh.

Unlike you I didn't even like the last five chapters ... I don't like the whole Horcrux thing at all. A hackneyed plot we've seen time and time again ... fetching the cursed objects by the numbers.

Given that H/G is ordained by the Children's Author I *do* hope to see more of Ginny in the last book. The romance between Harry and Ginny in HBP was a joke purely because we saw so little of it, and there was no evidence as to any *depth* in that relationship. Just a green scaly chest monster ... while I've come to be a H/Hr man first and foremost (and I admire the good H/Luna stories out there) I can enjoy a quality H/G fanfic as well, if it's well written. So if Book #7 is going to be one I hope she does the H/G better ... and give us the real Hermione back, one who believes in Harry, helps him out, listens to him, and doesn't commit illegal misdemeanors in cursing fellow students to help her little Ronnie gain quidditch (*quidditch!!!*) success or cursing someone with attack canaries.

Argh. I thought, after 4 weeks, I'd gotten over it all ...
15th-Aug-2005 01:10 pm (UTC)
You know, the H/G relationship didn't bother me all that much at first, really, because it made Harry happy, and that was a welcome change. When they broke up, though, and she told him that she'd never stopped wanting him, and had in fact dated other boys and so forth just hoping that he would notice her -- that made me want to reach into the book and slap her hard. Awful. If it hadn't been for that, I would have been okay with it. Now, regardless of what happens in book seven, I won't be able to think of Ginny as anything other than a manipulator who used other boys to get to Harry. Realistic? Sure, that happens a lot with teenagers. But that's not the kind of girl I want to see with the hero of the story, and it's sure as hell not the girl I'd consider Emotionally Mature and Harry's Equal, like the author said in the third part of The Interview. I don't expect Harry's potential love interest to be perfect, but I also don't want her to be a user. He deserves better. And that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Heh. Four weeks ain't enough time to get over this, matey. Ah, the perils that accompany emotional investment in a series of books...
15th-Aug-2005 09:48 pm (UTC)
The whole break-up scene was so trite, so superficial, so much out of Sweet Valley High that I've *got* to believe that Ginny had her fingers crossed behind her back the whole time, or something, and that she'll tag along after the Trio as they roam the countryside looking for horcruxen in the 7th book. Either that or JKR is really, really, *really* bad as an author ...

What's your interpretation on the Hermione component of the breakup? Ginny states that:

Hermione told me to get on with life, maybe go out with some other people, relax a bit around you, because I never used to be able to talk if you were in the room, remember? And she thought you might take a bit more notice if I was a bit more - myself.

Yet in OotP Hermione tells Harry that Ginny had "given up" (were those the words?) on him. So was Hermione lying to Harry in OotP? Plotting with the Cheerleader to help her get her boy way back then? Or is this a HBP retcon that you, like I, would prefer to ignore? We have to ignore one whole book, either OotP or HBP ... I know which one I'd prefer.
16th-Aug-2005 06:24 am (UTC)
I'm not a hundred percent certain what to make of that. My initial reaction is that Hermione said one thing, and Ginny heard something else. Hermione told her that it would do her good to get on with life and see other people, sure, but Ginny interpreted that as "Do this and Harry will like you more." And then upon seeing Ginny dating Michael Corner and acting like a person around Harry, Hermione naturally thinks that she has indeed gotten over him, and tells Harry so.

I like that interpretation better than the alternative, which was that Hermione flat out told her to date other guys in order to get Harry to like her, and thus told Harry that Ginny was over him in a bit of manipulative reverse psychology to make him want her more. Unfortunately, this is probably the more likely explanation, as it's certainly more in tune with the way JKR portrayed teenage girls throughout the novel: as manipulators and connivers. Before this book, I never would have expected Hermione to do such a thing. After this book, particularly taking into account the McLaggan incident, I'm afraid I can see it. And that just disappoints me even more.

Just another reason to appreciate Luna, really...
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